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(This talk page has, twice, been appropriately blanked to remove vandalism in the form of faux-political-agitation spam. --Jerzyt 18:05, 23 January 2008 (UTC))

Removed material[edit]

The following is probably ad-spam, and in any case is so far out of balance that a balanced article of reasonable size would require its removal.

In Australia, Hans Bjelke-Petersen founded the Bjelke-Petersen School of Physical Culture in Hobart in 1892. As of 2005, there are 180 clubs throughout Australia. This version of physical culture is generally performed by girls and women and is a combination of gymnastics, ballet, and aerobics. 2005 also saw the re-introduction of physical culture to boys ages 5-9 years.
Physical culture in 2006 has expanded into South Australia and Western Australia and is experiencing significant growth in Victoria.
Both a team and individual sport physie provides young women with:
  • good posture
  • fitness
  • strength
  • flexibility
  • balance
  • co-ordination
  • self-discipline
  • confidence
In 2005 BJP physical culture introduced a Boy's Fitness Program for boys aged 5-12.
==External links==
wzphysicalculture.com.au
physicalculture.com.au

--Jerzyt 18:05, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

That section requires citations as well. Kortoso (talk) 17:57, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Swedish method/Method?[edit]

Would anyone know what this is? The Georges Hébert article mentions a 'swedish method' as a form of physical culture. I am unable to find any mention of a swedish method in this article. Such a thing probably doesn't deserve its own article at this point, but would be better redirected here and mentioned as one form of physical culture. Even if it becomes larger that is okay, as this article is pretty small. Having one section about one form of physical culture overwhelming the article would be good for it because it would encourage people knowledgeable of other forms of physical culture to contribute to sections about that. Physical culture is very expansive, especially when you consider the old time strongman books written which fall under the label, and having a more comprehensive article about it would be very valuable to readers interested in fitness, and in collecting references to the strongmen and their writings together. Tyciol (talk) 18:21, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Then edit the Hébert article. Kortoso (talk) 17:55, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Origins[edit]

Oh, it came to America from Germany and that's that? Even as a Yankee I find this provincial. Kortoso (talk) 17:53, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, the first sentence claims it originated in Germany, England, and the United States but the rest of the article is 100% about the US - hardly balanced really. 81.101.197.228 (talk) 13:03, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, right. All other nations around the world were just couch potatos, sitting all day, eating popcorn and watching 19-century Yanks, Germans and Brits flexing their muscles. Preposterous! 108.76.70.179 (talk) 00:43, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
I just happen to have some information on this, but will have to check my sources before trying to add anything to this article. The reason it "came from Germany" in the mid-19th century has to do with european history. At the time of the French revolution, the German Kingdom of Prussia, and the many smaller princely states in its sphere of influence, were experiencing some tension between the autocratic monarchical principle and the burgeoning middle class forces seeking an outlet for progressive energies. Napoleon exploited these tendencies to create a german confederation under his sway, and most importantly he decisively defeated the Prussians at the Battle of Jena, which, to the traditionally proud militarists of all classes in Germany, was an unprecedented and humiliating event which had far-ranging social-psychological effects. All this history actually contributes to answer the question. The entire German "nation" entered a period of identity-crisis. Napoleon was totally dominant between 1804 and 1813. He drastically limited the German military machine, and absorbed it into his own multinational force against public sensitivity. He understood that German nationalist feeling had turned strongly against French domination and he was aggressive in forcing the subservient authorities to stop underground movements aimed at returning to an independent German state of either monarchy or republic. In this milieu, several Germans introduced "Gymnastic Clubs" as a way to surreptitiously train a large body of young men in physical disciplines, who could eventually be formed into a national army. It was considered the patriotic thing to do for male citizens to join these clubs and work out to become strong and agile. Eventually Napoleon fell, and Prussia and the rest of Germany returned to full power, but the popularity of gymnastics persisted. The rest of the 19th century saw significant political turmoil, once again pitting the progressive middle classes against the aristocratic elements, and contributing to waves of German migration to the United States by former members of these clubs.72.214.163.152 (talk) 14:59, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

New section on Physical Culture ("Physie") in Australia - need technical help with refs.[edit]

There was scattered material about the physical culture practice "physie" in Australia, which I condensed and combined into a new section. I think a physical culture practice that has been continuous operation since the 1890s is noteworthy, but I can't comment on whether the overall organisation of this article is sound or whether it should be integrated into another article. Nb. I need technical help fixing my references, which are showing a "Missing or empty |title=" error. I have looked at the explanation for what this error is but the solution was not clear to me.Faff296 (talk) 00:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Physical Culture template on other pages[edit]

I ended up here through the page on Pilates, which had a template at the bottom for Physical culture. The template is extensive but seems overly focused on this old concept and the "rivalry" discussed in this article. How much of this is relevant today? This is a criticism to the content on this page, I'm just wondering if there is a broader template we could use that includes more contemporary people and practices. —Zujine|talk 17:36, 29 July 2020 (UTC)